Saturday 31 January 2015

Let's Talk Love - Emotions - How Can You Tell When A Man Truly Loves A Woman & Vice Versa?

 
Photo Credit: singleblackmale.org
What is LOVE? What is Emotion? How can you tell its real? 

"To LOVE and to be LOVED" is one of the emotional needs of every human. It is also the most difficult to understand. The major part where we all get hurt at one point in time or the other. The need that has ended to be quite unexplainable.


LOVE: A strong feeling of affection. A great interest and pleasure in something.

EMOTION: A strong feeling deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others.

Now, take another one long minute and read through the meaning of love and emotion (above) again. What did you notice? Both are STRONG FEELINGS?

Well, you saw rightly, my question is "How can you tell that this(/these) strong feeling(s) is really real? What are those evident fact or character exhibited by partners in a relationship that could make you say, yes, the man loves the woman more, or the woman loves the man more? 

Many people don’t understand that the love you feel in the very beginning is amazing, but it’s not the same as the deep love that only appears after time, and even this deep love continues to deepen and grow and change over the course of a relationship.

I will list some and would like you to give your own run down on the comment page. 

1) They call and send messages often expressing their love
2)  They do interesting things to please each other; he can even cook her favorite meal for cook dinner just to show he cares deeply for her.

3) When a man loves a woman, he will never cheat on her. Never! He will find other women that throw themselves at him repulsive, however beautiful, they might be. That does not mean he has to profess a zillion times in a day how much he loves you. A man who does that is often a player. (Free to have you say on this point - Is it possible?)

Friday 30 January 2015

Today on Spicy Board - "Have You Eat?" Lol....

 
This is the photo of the day....A food vendor's sign post somewhere in Lagos has won the spot today...:-) you can see How and why its the most hilarious amongst all pictures we gathered today. Please ask your friends and neighbours, "Have you eat? Wait for their answer and let them know What's on the menu...lmao.... 

Yes guys, Keep sending in all uniquely Funny photos captured by you, and we would do our best to publish them....

ALERT! ALERT! Lagos State Water Corporation's Attention Urgently Needed

A big water pipe at Gbagada, Lagos State has busted and It's causing flood along Soluyi road, General Hospital, Gbagada. The attention of the Lagos state water corporation is being called by the residents of the said area, who not only experiencing heavy trafficking due to very slow vehicle movements to get through the flood But also have to move their goods for those whose shops are affected.

A source told me, the sky rocket water you can see above have been this way since 3pm today, Friday Jan. 30th. Though a beautiful site to behold But also dangerous as the water touches the electric cables above. (More pics after the cut)...

Residents are pleading to Lagos Government to rectify the problem before it gets even much more worse than this....

Identity of a Man, Who jumped off Third Mainland Bridge to His death Revealed

A man, who jumped off the Third Mainland Bridge to his death in the early hours of yesterday, Jan. 29th has been identified as Okechukwu Ezeigbo. Mr. Ezeigbo drowned in the Lagoon after taking a dive from the top of the Bridge on Thursday, in Lagos.
According to reports , Okechukwu is said to hail from The Imo State. He was among several commuters in a commercial bus heading towards Obalende, on the Lagos Island area when the he suddenly asked the driver of the bus to stop, he alighted, took off his shoes and took the deadly dive into the Lagoon before anyone could realise what was going on.
The Lagos State Traffic Management Authority, LASTMA came to the scene of the incident, sought the help of fishermen in the area and brought the victim out. But he was already dead.

Police Public Relations Officer, Kenneth Nwosu, confirmed the incident, said that the police had contacted his relatives. Preliminary investigation showed that the victim had mental problem and had been taken to a church located along the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway,for prayers before he escaped. 
“The relatives said they did not know how he left the place and joined a public transport. The police have recovered the corpse and deposited in a morgue” Nwosu added.

It's Friday - Watch VECTOR Perform SHIGA (Video)

                        
Enjoy guys.... Have a very beautiful weekend....Live, Love...Be Happy

Corpses of Two Students Found in Osun River

Corpses of two students of Ifeolu Secondary School, Osogbo, identified as (Samson Obasanjo, a student of Junior Secondary School 2, while the second boy, who was identified simply as Kabiru, was also in the same class as Obasanjo) were found floating on River Osun by a woman who had gone to fetch water, yesterday, Jan, 29th.

The incident threw the people of Ijetu area of the town into confusion. Though what led to the death of the pupils could not be ascertained at the time of report.

However, according to a resident's narrations to Vanguard the woman, on discovering the corpses, dropped her bucket and ran to the street, where she raised an alarm. 

The case was reported to the Nigeria Security and Civil Defence Corps, NSCDC, and a rescue team from the agency was immediately deployed to the scene. 

Meanwhile, a source revealed to Vanguard that the students had gone missing since Monday and their parents had been looking for them, adding that the parents were said to have broken down in tears on seeing the corpses of their children. 


Leo Messi Breaks Shakira's New-Born Baby's Name on Twitter

 
Update:

Being a close friend to Pique, Shakira's boyfriend, Leo Messi has got the first scoop of the couple's newly born baby boy's name...He's been named "Sasha." He tweeted it hours before Pique posted the baby's full name (Sasha Pique Mebarak). Messi's explained, "Sasha" is a Russian Baby Name, Meaning "Defender of the People."

Guess ironically, he's gonna be a footballer like his dad, Pique and would be the defenders role in the soccer field... (View the Sasha's Jersey after the cut...)

Shakira Welcomes Her Second Baby...and it's a Boy!

  
Shakira has welcomed her second son with partner Gerard Pique, 27.

The Colombian "Waka Waka" singer gave birth to her baby boy at Quiron Teknon Hospital in Barcelona, same clinic where she gave birth to first son Milan two years ago.

According to reports, the 37-year-old star had a planned cesarean and welcomed her baby boy last night, Jan, 29th.

His name is yet to be revealed, but the couple are expected to release a statement later today.

How exciting! 2 down, Seven more to go--This is just the beginning if Shakira has her way. In April 2014, Shakira told Latina magazine that she would like to have a huge family with Gerard.


“I would love to have eight or nine kids with Gerard — My own [soccer] team,” she told the magazine, according to Us Weekly.

Friends and family have been pouring out their congratulations on twitter the the couple. Even footballer Lionel Messi was among the first to congratulate the couple, as he wrote on Twitter: "Congratulations @shakira and @3gerardpique on the birth of your son.."

Congratz Shakira.....

AIT Shuts Down Online Presidential Poll over Massive Rigging (Releases Official Statement)

Daar Communications, owners of African Independent Television, AIT, has alleged massive fraud by agents of the All Progressive Congress, APC, in its online Presidential Poll.

A statement signed by the Management of Daar Communication said it shut down www.aitonline.tv website which hosted the poll because unique IP addresses were significantly less than the numbers of votes polled.

The statement titled: Massive Rigging Exposed On AIT Online Presidential

However, the shut down led to an online outrage  on Wednesday, January 28, 2015, and a lot of backlash by party supporters who called them out for being biased. (Read AIT statement below...)

'Dad made me his dutiful wife aged 6 - then performed a home abortion after he raped me'

  
Brave Judy van Niekerk (pictured above-left and right with her father Noah Walsh as a child) has broken her silence to tell of years of horrific abuse at her father's hands - and why she still went to visit him on his death bed in the hospital.....read on....


A woman has told how her father made her his “dutiful wife” when she was six – and when she fell pregnant performed a home abortion on her.

Judy van Niekerk, 46, of London, cooked and cleaned for her father Noah Walsh after her mother left.

He even raped her and shot her in the chest.

Judy was made to care for her siblings, all the while being abused by her father

He was jailed for 15 years at the Central Criminal Court in Dublin after she approached the police and told them about what happened.

In court Walsh said: “We [me and Judy] lived as husband and wife.”

Despite this, Mrs van Niekerk went to visit her father as he was dying – and told him she loved him and forgave him.

She said the bullying started when she was young.

She said “Most people have happy childhood memories.

“Mine include my dad teaching me to swim and taking me for picnics. But I have a lot of bad ones memories too.

“When I was six and my dad taught me to box. I was only little but he expected me to fight him, even though it hurt me.

“He was mean to my mum and called her useless and lazy and hit her.”

When she was six her mother left, returning but leaving again when she was ten.
“Each time she left he treated me like his dutiful wife,”

Mrs van Niekerk said: “I should have been going to school. But he didn’t let me. He said, ‘you have too much to do here.’

“I had to stay home and look after my five kid siblings. I had to get up early to make breakfast for everyone, and pack their lunchboxes.

“I was made to wash our clothes by hand, as we didn’t have a machine."

Those who live in glass house should not throw stones - Tompolo to Gen. Danjuma (rtd)

Government Ekpemupolo (Tompolo) has reacted to Gen. T. Y. Danjma's call for his arrest along with Asari-Dokubo and others for making provocative and inciting statements, ahead of next month general elections,  yesterday, Jan, 29th in a press statement made available by his media aide, Paul Bebenimibo.


Tompolo accused General Danjuma of being selective in his judgment, as he noted that certain Nigerians, particularly of Northern extraction have made similar provocative statements and were never castigated by the former Army chief.

The statement reads in part:
“The call by Gen. T.Y Danjuma (Rtd) to arrest me and other agitators for a better living for the people of the Niger Delta region is an indication that he is behind terrorism in the North eastern part of the country as well as the stoning of President Jonathan’s convey in Kastina and Bauchi states, because he has never condemned those acts, even though Boko Haram attacked churches and mosques in his home town.
“Is Gen. Danjuma not aware of the peaceful atmosphere when General Buhari visited Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa (Home state of the President) states for campaign? Why is it that President Jonathan’s convoy was attacked in Kastina and Bauchi states without any provocation?

Who is Gen. Danjuma if not for the oil wealth he is enjoying from the Niger Delta? I believe, there is something wrong with Gen. Danjuma.

He should be rather arrested for being behind terrorism in the North.

“Where was Danjuma when Mallam Ciroma Adamu threatened to make Nigeria ungovernable, if president Jonathan defeated the All Progressive Congress Presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammedu Buhari?”

Where was this so called statesman when the APC campaign Director General (DG), Mr. Rotimi Ameachi threatened to form a parallel government if President Jonathan wins the 2015 elections? Where was this hypocrite when Dr. Junaid Muhammed, Muhammadu Buhari and Atiku Abubakar all said in separate interviews that the nation will boil if Jonathan won the election in 2011?

Girl Falls to her Death after Boyfriend Proposed to Her on top of a Cliff

Please dear guys, as much as we love you to us the most amazing "Will You Marry Me" proposals of our lives; we also need you to do it in safe locations. So no girl falls to her death out of excitement. Ladies, have I spoken well?


A holidaymaker died in Ibiza after falling over a cliff as she celebrated a marriage proposal from her boyfriend. 

Police say she lost her balance as she jumped up and down in excitement after her partner asked for her hand in marriage. 
The pair, from Bulgaria, were at a beauty spot famed for its sunset views. Dimitrina Dimitrova, 29, suffered a heart attack brought on by injuries caused by the 65ft fall in the tiny resort of Cala Tarida on Ibiza's west coast. She was alive but unconscious when paramedics arrived but died at the scene minutes later. 
The incident happened around lunchtime on Tuesday. A local Civil Guard spokesman said: 'Everything is pointing towards the death being the result of a tragic freak accident.' 

A source added: 'Her boyfriend lived and worked on Ibiza. She had arrived two days earlier to visit him and look for work. 'She fell seconds after her partner surprised her by proposing to her as she jumped up and down with emotion.' 

It is believed the dead woman's devastated waiter boyfriend had singled out the beauty spot to make his marriage proposal. 

Last August a Polish couple fell to their deaths while taking a selfie at a cliff's edge in the popular tourist spot Cabo da Roca, Portugal. Their children, aged five and six, witnessed the accident and were taken into care before returning to their homeland to live with relatives. 

Thursday 29 January 2015

Malaysia officially declares MH370 passengers and crew 'presumed dead'

After a long unfruitful search for the missing MH370 Malaysia Airlines flight along with the 239 people on-board since March 8, 2014, the government of Malaysia has officially declared all of its passengers and crew presumed dead. As well as the loss of the Malaysia Airlines flight 370 an accident. Though the search for the missing Boeing 777 will continue.
The civil aviation director Azharuddin Abdul Rahman made the formal declaration today, Thursday, Jan. 29th in order to allow the families of those presumed dead to go on with all compensation process with the airline or with insurers.

Kim takes a selfie in a public rest room - #PublicBathroomSelfie

Places to take selfies are just unlimited when it comes to Kim K. Mother and reality star posted this pic on her instagram today and captioned it  '#PublicBathroomSelfie.'  Critics, any word for her?


Russian supermodel, Elena Perminova shows off SEXY nude body just 2 months after giving birth


  
28-year-old Russian supermodel showed off her incredible before and after pregnant pictures (above) for Vogue Russia Elena Perminova is a wife of a media tycoon & former Soviet KGB spy Alexander Lebedev and these transformation in 60 days is quite amazing and sure requires a lot of work and discipline.  

Elena, who is also a mother of three gave birth to her last child last year in November via Caesarian; used her instagram page to share the gruelling daily regime she undertook to get back in shape -- 'I started exercising just two weeks afterwards, even though I had a Caesarian. There were no breaks at weekends', she said. (see her pic with husband and baby after the cut...)

Meet Ibinabo Fiberesima's Adorable Daughter as she turns 7 today - Her name is Zino (photos)

   
Zino is Ibinabo's daughter with Fred Amata (full name - Ewomazino). She turned 7 years old today and proud mummyt shared these pics on her Facebook page; alongside adorable birthday post. HBD beauty...

As Usual...Kim Kardashian flashes her toned midriff and incredible figure in crop top and matching skirt

 
The TV Reality star and a mother of one, Kim Kardashian stepped out yesterday, Wednesday, Jan. 28th in one of her many skin tight crop tops and matching skirts as she and Scott Disick grab some dinner the Los Angeles neighbourhood of Encino. She flashed her toned midriff and she sure looked as gorgeous as ever. View more pics below...

Asari Dokubo's wife reacts to Gen. Danjuma call for the arrest of her husband

Asari Dokubo's wife, Hajia Mujahidat Daba Dokubo-Asari took to her Facebook page to ask the Former Minister of Defence Gen T.Y Danjuma several question, who yesterday called for the arrest of her husband Asari Dokubo, Tompolo and other Niger Delta ex-militants for declaring that they would destabilise the country if GEJ does not win next month's presidential election. See her full post after the cut...

Queen Latifah puts her big, bold and beautiful bikini body on display

  
Size didn't make her hide in a shell. The rapper and former Talk show host displayed her hot skin in bikini as she and her partner Eboni Nichols enjoy their holiday in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The two, who are currently there in Brazil were spotted having a great time by their luxury hotel poolside yesterday, Jan, 28th. (more photos after the cut....)

Rihanna to keep The Promise She Made About Her Body for Leonardo Dicaprio

There's gonna be something special going on between 26-year-old "Umbrella" singer, Rihanna and Leonardo DiCaprio. Seems Leonardo though with his gentle and calm look, might be the kind of man that can control Rihanna. Leo has made RiRi promise him that she won't ink herself until she falls in love again.


From HollywoodLife.com
Rihanna has always been the type of girl who does whatever she wants, when she wants. She wants a new tattoo on her body, but she’s stuck because Leo asked her to promise him she won’t let the needle touch her body until she falls in love again. She’s a woman of her word and she’s sticking to that,” a source tells HollywoodLife.com

Soludo's self serving article on Economic management is deficit in facts, logic & honor - Okonjo-Iweala

The Coordinating Minister for the Economy and Minister of Finance Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala has responded to former CBN governor Charles Soludo's article titled Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond the election, where he criticized the presidential economic team. (read here) Below Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala response...
For anyone who has not read Professor Charles Soludo’s article on January 25 2015, I would encourage them to do so. It is littered with abusive and unbecoming language. It shows how an embittered loser in the Nigerian political space can get so derailed that they commit intellectual harakiri by deliberately misquoting economic facts and maliciously turning statistics on their head to justify a hatchet job. We hope all the intellectuals in the international circles in which Professor Soludo has told us he flies around in will read what a Professor of Economics has chosen to do with his intellect.
In this one article Soludo has shamelessly pandered to so many past leaders that Nigerians are asking one more time – what position is Soludo gunning for now? He claims in his article that he has had his own share of public service, yet he has failed twice in his attempts to be Governor of Anambra State and Vice Presidential candidate of various parties. There is definitely an issue of character with Prof. Charles Soludo and his desperate search for power and relevance in Nigeria. Nigerians should therefore beware of so-called intellectuals without character and wisdom because this combination is fatal.

Mum Slashes Throats Of Her 3 Crying Children with Kitchen Knife to Keep Them Quiet

A woman, who is an Army wife was arrested for slashing the throats of her two-year-old daughter and six-month-old twins said she tried to kill her crying babies so they wouldn’t disturb her husband, who she said 'gets very annoyed' whenever they make noise.   

According to Daily Mail Christina Booth, 29, said she hit ‘breaking point’ when she put her children to bed and all three began crying at her home in Olympia, Washington.

And Mrs Booth, who suffers from postpartum depression, told police that she went downstairs and grabbed a kitchen knife before slashing their throats because her husband, Army Staff Sergeant Thomas Booth, got ‘very annoyed when the children cry’ and if she killed the children ‘the house would be quiet for Thomas’.

Arrest Tompolo, Asari, others now - Gen T.Y Danjuma

Former Minister of Defence Gen T.Y Danjuma has requested that Pres. Jonathan should order the immediate arrest of Asari Dokubo, Government Tompolo and other Niger Delta ex-militants who declared that they would destabilise the country if the president does not win next month's presidential election.

Speaking in an interview at the North West University, Kano shortly after commissioning the Kwankwasiyya City built by the Kano state government yesterday, January 28th Danjuma said the militants must be punished for making such unguarded utterances which could throw the nation into chaos.

"The statements were very reckless coming from irresponsible individuals and they should be condemned, in fact they should be arrested" he said. 

5 family members die of 'drugs overdose' to escape 'apocalypse''


A couple and three of their children were found dead at home after taking a cocktail of drugs in a tragic 'murder-suicide' - to escape "the evil in the world".

Benjamin and Kristi Strack and three of their children, Benson, 14, Emery, 12, and Zion, 11, were found dead in Springville, Utah on September 27 2014. 

On Tuesday police said they often discussed religiously-held notions of the apocalypse &orchestrated a multi-drug suicide using methadone and other medication.

Springville Police Department detective Greg Turnbow, the lead officer on the case, said: (continue...)

Buhari vs Jonathan, Beyond the elections - Charles Soludo X-Rays GEJ and Buhari


Former Governor of Central Bank of Nigeria, Charles Soludo, X-rayed President Jonathan and Gen. Buhari in a very long article on Sunday, Jan, 25th  titled 'Buhari vs Jonathan, Beyond the elections'. Soludo weighed the chances of any of winning next month's general elections and the challenges that lie ahead.

Read Charles Soludo article below...
I need to preface this article with a few clarifications. I have taken a long sabbatical leave from partisan politics, and it is real fun watching the drama from the balcony.  Having had my own share of public service (I do not need a job from government), I now devote my time and energy in pursuit of other passions, especially abroad. A few days ago, I read an article in Thisday entitled “Where is Charles Soludo?”, and my answer is that I am still there, only that I have been too busy with extensive international travels to participate in or comment on our national politics and economy.
But I occasionally follow events at home. Since the survival and prosperity of Nigeria are at stake, the least some of us (albeit, non-partisan) must do is to engage in public debate. As the elections approach, I owe a duty to share some of my concerns.

Ghanaian TV star Deborah Vanessa excited to see her naked pic in Romanian newspaper

Ghanaian TV personality and former beauty queen, Deborah Vanessa, has taken to her instagram page to express the level of excitement to have seen that a Romanian newspaper featured her naked pic on their front cover alongside Kim K's "break the Internet" Paper Magazine picture. Deborah posted the naked photo on her instagram page a few months ago and LiberTatea Lumea picked it up to her delight. Vanessa shared the newspaper page on her instagram and wrote;
"I woke up in a Romanian newspaper #LiberTatea #Lumea. It says that I'm one of the most loved Ghanaian artistes especially because of my songs and extremely hot pictures and that African media soon forgot about Kim K's nude pics after I posted mine to the delight of my fans. (continue to see the naked pic and other pics after the cut)...

Wednesday 28 January 2015

40-year-old Yasmin Eleby Marries Herself - She's not the first, looks like its a becoming a trend these days

 
Yasmin Eleby-40, has married herself in a dream wedding complete with a fabulous candlelit ceremony and heartfelt vows to forgive, honor and love herself.

It might sound surprising and weird but Yasmin isn't the first. 36-year old Grace Gelder of Britain (pictured right), also married herself after being fed up with dating scene and being single for six years. Grace 'proposed' to herself on a park bench and decided to say "I Do" to herself in a full wedding ceremony with 50 guests, in October last year. (read here)


In Yasmin case, according to BlackArtinAmerica, Yasmin Eleby promised herself that if she hadn't found a mate by the time she was 40, she would marry herself, and she kept her promise. 

John Legend and Wife Chrissy Teigen get cozy for GQ Mag

 
Singer John Legend and his beautiful model wife Chrissy Teigen, are one of Manhattan's adored couples. They loved up/heat up the GQ Magazine February 2015 issue. The lovely sexy couple is pictured hitting the streets, bathroom and kitchen tables for a steamy and fun shoot. (More pics below....)

Usher performs on the street of California as a Dancing Living Statue

 
Usher donned in all-gold, looking more like a living-statue but more interestingly a Dancing Living Statue. Busting out his famous dance moves as street performer while he filmed a video alongside a contestant from season eight of The Voice, he drew in huge crowd to watch as he impressively showed off his skills along the board-walk in Venice Beach, California. 

Completely unrecognised, the R&B artist thrilled his large spectators before he whipped it off to reveal himself much to the amazement and delight of his impromptu audience. (more photos after the cut...)

Tanzania's albinos hacked apart by witchdoctors who believe their body parts 'bring luck' - Even sold by their own families for £50k

 
Modern day witch hunt and killings around the world is saddening. (read here and here). Despite all civilization, Tanzania has the highest number of killings and attacks of albinos in Africa by Witch-doctors and trade in body parts of the special people driven by belief that they bring luck and wealth.
Tanzania's albinos are being 'hunted down like animals' as greed for money and influence drives families to turn on their own loved ones in a trade allegedly fuelled by some of the country's most powerful people. It is believed albino body parts will bring a person wealth, or luck - and for that, people are willing to pay as much as $3,000 or $4,000 for a limb, or as much as $75,000 - about £50,000 - for the 'full set', a whole body, Daily Mail report

Tuesday 27 January 2015

Kim Kardashian treats her home like a hotel - former Housekeeper reveals

Former housekeeper to TV Reality star, Kim Kardashian has revealed that she treats her home like a hotel, so much so that she has to have clean sheets EVERY DAY because they get so dirty with mascara and foundation everywhere.


According to new reports, the housekeeper claims that Kim,  who she says is the most generous of all the Kardashian sisters and her husband Kanye have the highest quality sheets and a fresh, clean set get put on every day.

Ex-Super Eagles Keeper, Wilfred Agbonavbare, dies of cancer


The former Super Eagles goalkeeper, Wilfred Agbonavbare has died. Wilfred finally lost his battle against cancer today, Tuesday Jan. 27th at a Spanish hospital were he was receiving treatment.
48-year-old Agbonavbare, is said was initially treated in Florida, United States, before he was transferred to the Prince of Asturias Hospital in Alcalá de Henares. 
It's heart breaking to know that Agbonavbare’s three children are now orphans as his wife died of breast cancer three years ago after gulping all their earnings.

Who wore it better? Kate Hudson Vs Eva Herzigova

 
Both gowns are Versace. 35-year-old Kate Hudson (left), donned the retail version of the revealing red Versace dress as she attended the Versace show during Paris Fashion Week Haute Couture Spring/Summer 2015 on Sunday. While 41-year-old model Eva Herzigova (right) modeled the runway version during Paris Fashion Week on same day, as she walked the runway in the radiant red dress.

Who wore it better? Kate or Eva? (Before you make your decisionview more photos after the cut...)

Naomi Campbell Stuns in Black Lingerie for La Perla (photos)

  

44-year-old London-born super model, proved she remains one of the most enduring faces in fashion.

Naomi Campbell (pictured above-center), who is now in her fourth decades of modelling stepped out on the catwalk in all black sexy lingerie as she closed the La Perla's debut Atelier show at Paris Haute Couture Fashion Week, yesterday, Monday, Jan. 26th; at the Hôtel Salomon de Rothschild. View more pics after the cut...